A story of moral imagination and bold entrepreneurship | Sitoyo Lopokoiyit and Jacqueline Novogratz

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🗓️ 10 July 2025

⏱️ 24 minutes

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In a conversation about visionary leadership, M-PESA CEO Sitoyo Lopokoiyit speaks with impact investor and Acumen CEO Jacqueline Novogratz about how he grew a nascent mobile payment service into Africa’s largest fintech platform — which now handles nearly 60 percent of Kenya's GDP and more than a billion dollars in daily transactions. They draw on insights from both of their careers to explore how trust, innovation and moral imagination can unlock opportunity in overlooked places.

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0:00.0	You're listening to TED Talks Daily, where we bring you new ideas to spark your curiosity every day.
0:12.3	I'm your host, I'm always amazed by how entrepreneurial minds are able to solve some of the biggest, most intangible problems we face, seeing scalable
0:22.4	solutions against all odds. This is one of those stories. In this conversation, impact investor
0:28.6	Jacqueline Novagrats speaks with Satoio Lobokoyet, the CEO of M. Pessa, Africa's largest fintech
0:36.5	platform, to learn how M-Pesa's digital banking ecosystem
0:40.0	has revolutionized financial access across Africa.
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