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Rogue Energy

A Standing Ovation for Katy Perry's Boyfriend's Estranged Wife

Rogue Energy

iHeartPodcasts

Relationships, Tv & Film, Society & Culture, Education, Self-improvement

34.4K Ratings

🗓️ 16 November 2025

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

50-year-old Sophie Grégoire is a class act. She was baited on a podcast to explain how she’s remained so “cool” amid the now public romance between her soon-to-be ex-husband, former Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and pop star Katy Perry.  Grégoire, who was married to Trudeau for 18 years and with whom she shares three children, gave some of the most thoughtful, empowering answers to how she is navigating the very public situation and there are lessons in her words for each and everyone one of us. 

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.5

Guaranteed Human.

0:06.2

Have you heard?

0:07.7

Well, sure you have because everybody is talking.

0:11.5

Justin Trudeau has a new girlfriend, and everybody seems to be talking about that.

0:16.7

But Justin Trudeau also has a wife.

0:24.8

She's talking to. And you know what? We like this lady.

0:34.1

And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and T.J. Robs. We're celebrating, right? A lot of people are very excited about Justin Trudeau and Katie Perry dating Canadians.

0:38.5

It's fun.

0:39.4

It makes sense.

0:40.2

They're available both recently out of long-term relationships.

0:43.6

This seemed to be something people endorsed.

0:45.7

Yes, they look great together.

0:47.2

I think everyone, they look happy together.

0:49.6

And it's been interesting because they are official, I guess, because they made the choice to walk

0:56.5

out of that cabaret show hand in hand. It was her birthday. So they never actually released

1:01.7

a statement or put anything on Instagram. Wait, do they have to, babe? I don't think so.

1:06.8

Because when you walk out of a restaurant on your birthday, when you know speculation, because there were some other photos that were taken earlier a month or so prior. And so, yes, they made the decision. But I guess they're calling this a soft launch of a relationship. You don't have to talk about it, but just the mere act of holding your hand, you know the paparazzi's going to be there, you know the cameras are going to be there. And now you're saying, we're an item. Okay, I want to put that to rest because they haven't officially done whatever or put out some statement. These two are dating. Yes. Okay, we're good. Yes. All right. I just want to make sure I'm not missing something here because there were some people even wanting to be cautious, if you will, after they walked out holding hands.

1:44.4

What else are we talking about here other than, okay, thank you for clearing all that.

1:48.9

That's kind of one of those.

1:50.1

What else could it be?

1:51.1

So even by process of elimination, obviously they're dating.

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