Hello ladies I am Sam Sanders I'm Saeed Jones and I am Zach Zafford and you are listening to

Vibe Check. And this episode we've got a very very special special conversation for y'all.

I feel like we've been kind of hyping it up low key for weeks.

You've heard us talk about the movie on this show

several times in the last few months,

a film called American Fiction. It's on all these year and best

of list and is most likely going to get a few Oscar nominations, the director of

that movie and the writer of that screenplay, Core Jefferson, he is on Vibe Check this episode.

We are excited. I'm snapping into my performance to show my enthusiasm. I'm excited for this chat. I liked the movie.

I like Chord as a person. I'm in the middle of the book this film is based on. I'm ready for this chat and we should point out here

Zach your friends with Cord but I knew Cord back in the day in DC when he was still a

journalist we were in the same journalist running around getting too drunk in DC circles.

So to see him go from that to this, we are proud. It's amazing. So I met Cord as he was leaving journalism, so I met him like in 2015, 16 I think as he became a writer.

Saeed, you've been friends with him for a while too, but it's just been amazing to see a sister in the digital media era keep growing and becoming even bigger and

bigger. I mean it's very similar to the Quinta Bronson who is our Emmy winner

who was a buzzfeeder and now is the first black woman over 30 years to have an Emmy

actually 42 years 42 years oh my god wow it's just anyway we're just so

so proud of folks like cord who are able to follow their passions, their gut and make decisions

that really bring back tenfold. And I just am so excited to Sam that you got to talk to him because

you've known him for so long and you have been really excited about this conversation.

Yeah and to be clear here American fiction his debut feature is pretty phenomenal.

It is based on the novel Erasure by Percival Everett. That book's about 20 years old, but

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