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Thank you. Social media feuds are now completely commonplace.

We can see them between presidents and billionaires.

We can see them between other kinds of celebrities, ordinary folks as well. There is a recent one

that was about the participation of men in women's sports. Welcome back to Issues Cedar. I'm

Todd Wilkin, joining us to discuss the social media feud between Simone Biles and Riley Gaines over the participation of men and women's sports.

Pastor Hans Feeney, he's pastor of Prince of Peace, Lutheran Church and St. Louis, creator of a series of comical videos called Lutheran satire.

He's a contributor to the Federalist and author of a recent column titled Simone Biles' attack on Riley Gaines had nothing to do with empathy.

Hans, welcome back.

Good to be back.

Give us the rundown of what happened online between Simone Biles and Riley Gaines.

Sure.

So Riley Gaines is a kind of conservative activist.

I believe she's spoken at the issues at Cedera conference before.

And her kind of area of focus is advocating

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