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shop in g.com slash noodles. Welcome to another mini-cast from Away With Words. I'm Martha Barnett.

Here's a little secret I want to share with you. If you want to get a rise out of me, all you have to do is say that the serial comma should be optional. Write out the colors of the American flag without

sticking a comma between the words white and blue. Well to me, them's fighting

words. So you can imagine how happy I was when we heard recently from another Martha who shares my devotion to this precious piece of punctuation.

That Martha lives in Indianapolis with her husband Mark. They're both English teachers, but Martha called to say that she just discovered something shocking about the man she thought she knew.

We were on our anniversary weekend camping and I was telling him about something that happened

in class and I was explaining the comma to one my students and he said to me like wait you teach them that

What was it? Whoa and I said yeah you don't and he said no he doesn't and we had never talked about it before

so we've been got an argument about

whether or not

it should be used.

Oh my!

That's why I was calling.

Wait, so which comma is this?

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