Hey, everyone, it's Reed. Before we get started, some good news of victory for the pro-democracy

movement. Here in Utah, of all places, a judge has ruled that the legislature illegally

gerrymandered the congressional districts after Prop 4's passage, which I helped work on in 2018,

that required a citizens redistricting commission to be in place.

A judge has now said that the legislature cannot do that,

that they must redraw the lines,

and we could have an extra seat for a pro-democracy candidate in 2026.

I hope you'll go to join the union.us and find out more about small but huge victories in this fight. And now on with the show.

Welcome back to the Homefront. I'm your host, Reid Galen. Today, you're going to hear part two of my conversation with historian Gary Gerstel about where we find ourselves. Now that the neoliberal order

has ended, where do we go from here? If you haven't

listened to Part 1, I invite you to go back and do so. Let me ask this. I was reading a story

earlier today before we started recording about the commander of the U.S. Naval Air Forces,

talking about that, you know, we're going to have 11 aircraft carriers going into the future,

that they're going to lay down the keel for, you know, CVN 72, which was going to be the William

Jefferson Clinton, and then, you know, in 2030, and it'll be ready by 2040. And then the, you know,

the keel for 73, which is George W. Bush will be in 2034.

I'll be ready in 2044.

It appears that there's a lot of both government mechanics and civil life that just go on,

even if you don't have this election or that election.

I was listening to a podcast a couple of weeks ago and someone said, you know, China has a market

economy.

It's not necessarily the same as ours, but they have nothing that resembles democracy.

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