Pushkin.

It's hard to read the news these days without asking yourself, how did we get here?

Fiasco is a history podcast for the co-creators of Slow Burn.

In our first season, Bush v. Gore, we examined an unmistakable turning point in American

politics, the 2000 election, which resulted in a high-stakes stalemate, ended with one of the most

controversial rulings in Supreme Court history. So if you're trying to make sense at the present

moment, check out Fiasco, Bush v. Gore. Listen on theHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

From Pushkin Industries, this is deep background, the show where we explore the stories behind the

stories in the news. I'm Noah Feldman. As the coronavirus pandemic continues, the economic situation

is becoming more dire by the day.

Not only have an enormous number of businesses closed, but more people have filed for unemployment

here in the United States faster than at any other time in our history.

Meanwhile, no one can say for certain when this will end.

What should the government be doing to help?

Are massive bailout or stimulus packages that inject money into the economy actually effective?

What other options are there facing us?

To discuss these extremely pressing questions, we're joined by Lawrence Summers of Harvard University.

Larry was chief economist of the World Bank.

He was first deputy secretary of the Treasury under President Clinton and then secretary of the Treasury.

He was president of Harvard University.

And then as an advisor to Barack Obama, he helped pull our country through another financial crisis, the one in 2008.

We spoke on Monday afternoon.

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