Hello and welcome to Out of This World.

I'm Jamie Hanshaw and we are going out of this world.

Today we're going Trans-Plutonian and I'm so excited because joining me is the one and only Isaac Wisehab.

Hey, what's up, Jamie? I'm so happy to be on here.

Link up with you again. Thank you.

I'm super excited because you're one of the only shows that we listen to regularly and our

research and our subjects are so parallel.

We've been, you know, fans of yours for a long time.

And so I'm really excited.

This is the first time we're doing collaboration just you and me yeah likewise yeah I I think you've been there's this sort of

idea of niching down in the world of conspiracy and the one that you know you're interested

and I'm interested in and Jay is this sort of pop culture blending in with

spirituality kind of thing and uh and i and i guess like the reason i am into it is because it feels

i don't know it feels like the most sort of real conspiracy to me and there's so much to learn

and i really enjoyed the learning aspect of it.

So yeah, it's been fascinating to me for years and years and years.

I felt that pop culture was the ultimate sort of bridge to introducing people to topics that I wanted them to be aware of. You know,

you can't jump right into Federal Reserve or, you know, all those like heavy things, but you can

get somebody to talk about Beyonce or Britney Spears or movies or TV shows. So. But today, I thought

we could talk about something that you have done shows on and I have

been talking about recently is the Scarlet Woman.

Right.

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