A New United Nations Special Rapporteur on Human Rights and Counterterrorism
The Lawfare Podcast
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🗓️ 14 December 2023
⏱️ 64 minutes
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Summary
Ben Saul is the Challis Professor of International Law at the University of Sydney, Australia, whose internationally recognized work has focused specifically on the intersection of human rights, terrorism, and international law. The United Nations Human Rights Council voted to appoint Saul as the newest Special Rapporteur on the promotion and protection of human rights and fundamental freedoms while countering terrorism, which has become one of the most visible and urgent special rapporteur mandates at the Human Rights Council. He began his three-year tenure, which can be extended to six years, on November 1, 2023. Lawfare Associate Editor Hyemin Han sat down with Saul for an interview about his priorities for his tenure, the intellectual frameworks and perspectives he brings to his role, and to get his perspective as Special Rapporteur on the ongoing Israel-Hamas war.
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| 1:01.0 | T's and sees apply. Because of the kind of political |
| 1:15.0 | competition because of the explosion of conflicts |
| 1:20.0 | of all kinds of conflicts involving |
| 1:22.0 | all kinds of dehumanization often on both sides. |
| 1:26.3 | I think we are seeing great pressure on the human rights system generally and you know in those bits of human rights which are most |
| 1:36.0 | sensitive and most difficult like like counter terrorism and you know the |
| 1:40.4 | states seeing themselves as responsible for the security of their citizens |
| 1:44.0 | and protecting the you know the lives of of their citizens it can be very hard to get |
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