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I'm Noah Feldman. The CDC, also known as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, has been emphasizing

that a strategy called contact tracing is going to be essential to reopening the country.

Here's Robert Redfield, the head of the CDC, speaking at a White House press conference

earlier this month.

We're going to be very aggressively focused on early case recognition, isolation, and contact tracing.

Contact tracing is the process of identifying people who've come into contact with an infected

person and alerting them so that they can get tested and isolate themselves to slow the spread

of the disease. This is a job that has traditionally been done by

public health workers, but in several countries around the world, including Singapore, South Korea,

much contact tracing was done digitally with the help of apps that people downloaded onto

their phones. To learn more about contact tracing, how it works, what it's good for, and what the

challenges are facing contact tracing, we're joined by Dr. Louise Ivers. She's the executive

director of the Massachusetts General Center for Global Health at the Massachusetts General Hospital

in Boston. She's a doctor who specializes in infectious disease and

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