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A Nazi in Chile: did an SS commander work for Pinochet?

History Extra podcast

Immediate Media

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4.34.5K Ratings

🗓️ 3 April 2025

⏱️ 46 minutes

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What connects a notorious Chilean dictator with an SS commander who played a key role in the Holocaust? This is the question at the heart of a book by the author and lawyer Philippe Sands, which follows the twin stories of Augusto Pinochet's sensational arrest in London in 1998 and the postwar career of Walter Rauff, who spent many years in Pinochet's Chile. Philippe was joined by Rob Attar to explore a tangled tale of law and mass murder in Europe and South America. (Ad) Philippe Sands is the author of 38 Londres Street: On Impunity, Pinochet in England and a Nazi in Patagonia (Orion, 2025). Buy it now from Waterstones: https://go.skimresources.com?id=71026X1535947&xcust=historyextra-social-histboty&xs=1&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.waterstones.com%2Fbook%2F38-londres-street%2Fphilippe-sands%2F9781399632812. The HistoryExtra podcast is produced by the team behind BBC History Magazine. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Welcome to the History Extra podcast,

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History magazine. What connects a notorious Chilean dictator with an SS commander who played a key

1:06.5

role in the Holocaust? This is the question at the heart of a new book by the author and lawyer

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Philippe Sands, which follows the twin stories of Augusto Pinochet's sensational arrest in London

1:19.3

in 1998 and the post-war career of Walter Ralph, who spent many years in Pinnishay's Chile.

1:30.1

For today's episode, Philippe was joined by Rob Atar to explore a tangled tale of law and mass murder in Europe and South America.

1:38.2

In 1998, Augusto Pinochet was arrested in London. How seismic a moment was this?

1:47.5

I remember the moment of learning of Pinochet's arrest. It was a Saturday afternoon. It happened to be my birthday and I was settling

1:52.9

down to watch the football results at 5 o'clock and the news came on and they announced that

1:59.1

former head of state of Chile, Agostrapinichet, visiting in London,

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