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And now for a moment of clarity.

We had all three of us, a lot of the same thoughts,

but the number one thought that came to both of us,

what are these people thinking?

Yeah.

For me, it was a stunning display.

I mean, starting with Hex-Seth and the way he approached the conversation, General Hurtling,

was one that I just kind of had to catch my breath because I'm listening to this man,

who served in the uniform, and, you know, talk to these men and women who are leaders of our military.

You're very familiar with the phrase crossing the Rubicon and what that means.

Well, today we watch the Rubicon get blowed up.

They decided to hell with crossing it, we just blow it up.

That very, very important line between civilian leadership and the military, one that Simone

aptly laid out at the beginning of our conversation was an important line for reason.

And now what we're watching, sir, is this president and this secretary defense, not war,

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