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The Michael Steele Podcast

A Moment Of Clarity: "The White House may just be a building to you, but to many Americans its not!" - Michael Steele

The Michael Steele Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, Government, History, News

4.83.1K Ratings

🗓️ 30 October 2025

⏱️ 3 minutes

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Summary

The demolition of the East Wing sparks a fiery debate on the symbolism of America's institutions and the radical shift in its political identity. Michael Steele challenges the notion that the White House is merely "a building", arguing that its destruction is the "destruction of a symbol of this government, of our democracy, of our pluralistic society".

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Transcript

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0:00.0

And now for a moment of clarity.

0:05.0

We are at a place now where it is sort of getting to be against the law to not be on their side.

0:13.0

Yeah.

0:14.0

Sort of against the law not to be with them.

0:17.0

I think what you have, that's an excellent point to raise in the context of what this is and what you heard from the governor is that you're really beginning to see, I think we're at a fork in the road, Bill, where you're MAGA or you're not. It's no longer right or left, red or blue. It's because that's because that's, that, that paradigm has, is past.

0:40.2

It is now something very, very different.

0:42.6

And the question for the country, as you face this fork in the road, is how, where do you

0:48.0

turn?

0:48.7

Which way do you want to turn?

0:50.4

Because we watched this week the, the destruction of a symbol of this government, of our democracy,

0:57.8

of our pluralistic society.

1:00.1

Is that the White House?

1:01.1

The East Wing, yeah.

1:02.2

It's a building, Mike.

1:04.0

It's a building.

1:05.0

It's a building maybe to you, but to a lot of Americans, it's a not.

1:09.0

And I'm going to tell you as a young kid growing up in D.C., when my daddy took me by that building,

1:15.6

it meant something to me as a 10-year-old. It meant something to me to grow up in a town

1:20.0

where everybody in this country came and protested and cried and screamed and laughed,

1:25.8

right? And I was a part of that.

1:31.0

So that building for me was my childhood.

1:33.3

Because my daddy stood me out in front of the gate before Clinton closed the road, right?

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