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Hidden Forces

A Memoir of Illness, Discovery, & the Body Politic | Ross Douthat

Hidden Forces

Demetri Kofinas

Business, Government

4.81.6K Ratings

🗓️ 8 November 2021

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

In Episode 217 of Hidden Forces, Demetri Kofinas speaks with New York Times Op-Ed columnist Ross Douthat about his five-year struggle with a disease that in his own words, officially, doesn't exist. It's a story about personal suffering but also about what happens when we become terribly ill only to realize that even the doctors who are willing to treat us can only do so much.

Demetri and Ross spend the first half of their conversation discussing the book and its lessons for not only those dealing with chronic illnesses like Lyme disease, which has afflicted Ross, but for anyone who feels the need to challenge or circumvent the medical establishment in order to treat an illness or cure a serious disease. Unsurprisingly, this leads directly into a conversation about Covid-19, a disease which has inspired its own set of alternative treatment modalities and which has afflicted tens of millions of people with symptoms that the medical establishment is still struggling to understand.

In the second hour, Demetri has a chance to ask Ross about a number of political and social issues and questions surrounding the upcoming elections, the enduring popularity of Donald Trump, the ongoing transformation of the news media, the Biden presidency, and much more.

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Episode Recorded on 11/02/2021

Transcript

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0:00.0

What's up everybody? My name is Demetra Cofinas and you're listening to Hidden Forces,

0:06.0

a podcast that inspires investors, entrepreneurs and everyday citizens to challenge consensus narratives

0:14.0

and to learn how to think critically about the systems of power shaping our world.

0:19.0

My guest in this week's episode is Ross Dalford.

0:23.0

Ross is an op-ed columnist for the New York Times who writes thoughtfully about issues of faith,

0:28.0

politics, culture and society. He's out with a new book titled The Deep Places.

0:35.0

A memoir about his five-year struggle with a disease that, in his own words,

0:40.0

officially doesn't exist. It's a story about personal suffering,

0:45.0

but also about what happens when we become terribly ill only to realize that

0:50.0

even the doctors who are willing to treat us can only do so much.

0:55.0

We spend the first half of our conversation discussing the book and its lessons

0:59.0

for not only those dealing with chronic illnesses like Lyme disease, which has afflicted Ross,

1:04.0

but for anyone who feels the need to challenge or circumvent the medical establishment

1:09.0

in order to treat an illness or cure a serious disease.

1:13.0

Unsurprisingly, this leads us directly into a conversation about COVID-19,

1:19.0

but the disease which has inspired its own set of alternative treatment modalities

1:24.0

and which has afflicted tens of millions of people with symptoms that the medical establishment is still struggling to understand.

1:31.0

In the second hour, I have a chance to ask Ross about a number of political and social issues and questions

1:37.0

surrounding the upcoming elections, the enduring popularity of Donald Trump,

1:41.0

the ongoing transformation of the news media, the Biden presidency and much more.

1:46.0

If you enjoy the free content that we produce every week,

1:50.0

I encourage you to take the leap and become a premium subscriber if you haven't already.

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