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A man of the people: Pope Francis has died

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The Economist

News & Politics, News

4.44.9K Ratings

🗓️ 21 April 2025

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

He shunned fancy vestments and paid surprise visits to prisons and hospitals: our obituaries editor reflects on the life of a reform-minded pontiff who preferred to be among his flock. High-protein snacks are on an absolute tear, and one explanation is linked to new weight-loss drugs (7:49). And the thorny business of nudging an employee towards resigning (14:31).


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0:00.0

At BP, we've reset our strategy to grow value for shareholders, growing upstream, focusing downstream, playing to our strengths, and disciplined investment in the transition.

0:14.1

This is a reset BP. Find out more at BP.com forward slash reset. Transition activities such as EV charging, bioenergy and renewables are a much smaller but key part of our business.

0:32.6

The Economist.

0:45.7

Hello and welcome to the intelligence from The Economist.

0:47.2

I'm your host, Jason Palmer.

0:52.1

Every weekday, we provide a fresh perspective on the events shaping your world.

1:02.0

These days, high protein is the new low calorie. Store shelves are lined with products promising this many grams or that.

1:06.0

We look at what's behind the proteinaceous push and the market that's trying to accommodate it.

1:12.8

And sometimes for managers, it's an absolute relief when an employee resigns.

1:18.4

But nudging someone towards doing so, well, there are better ways than others.

1:35.3

Thank you. But first... One of the most dramatic moments in the life of the Catholic Church is when the great doors to the balcony of St. Peter's swing open, and the new Pope comes out.

1:57.0

Anne Roe is the economist's obituaries editor.

2:00.0

When Francis stepped out on March the 13th, 2013, there were a few surprises.

2:08.2

First of all, he was Argentinian, the first Pope who hadn't come from Europe for 13 centuries.

2:16.3

And then again, before he gave the great blessing, he asked the

2:21.9

crowd to pray for him. There were more surprises to come. There wasn't going to be any papal, cape or red velvet slippers.

2:37.0

He didn't even want to wear white trousers under his white cassock. He said he didn't want to look like an ice cream cellar.

2:44.4

He refused to live in the 12-room Vatican apartment, which is put aside for the Pope, Pope and instead he lived in a very simple hostel

2:52.8

just two rooms and he ate his meals in the dining room with everybody else the motif of his

2:59.8

papacy was that he wanted to be out among the people and he wanted to be helping those in trouble

3:06.2

when he was staying in the hostel he would sneak out to go to

3:11.1

prisons and hospitals, sometimes to the great surprise of the people who were working there,

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