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Is the debt ceiling crisis just a prelude to a much bigger debt blow-up? If so, how should you

be thinking about risks and opportunities? Hi everyone, welcome to this deep dive conversation

with legendary investor Jim Rogers. Hi Jim, thanks so much for being with us.

Oh, Maggie, I'm delighted to see you again. It's been a long time.

It certainly has, and we're so happy to have you because I feel like we're at this juncture where

a lot of people are trying to look into the future, figure out what's going on,

but there are a lot of cross-currents. So let's start with what's on your mind as you watch,

or we all watch, Congress and the president sort of go down to the wire again when it comes to the US

debt ceiling. Are you concerned about it? How are you thinking about it? We seem to find ourselves

in this situation repeatedly. Hey, I hope that you have figured out, but now we should always be

concerned about Washington. I don't have a clue what they're doing, and they prove it day in and

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