A LOOK AT TWO INSPIRATIONAL FILMS - with Joe Walker - Part 1

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James Ellis Deakins

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🗓️ 9 July 2025

⏱️ 79 minutes

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SEASON 2 - EPISODE 149 - A LOOK AT TWO INSPIRATIONAL FILMS - with Joe Walker - Part 1

In this episode of the Team Deakins Podcast, editor Joe Walker (Season 1, Episode 35) returns for the first half of a two-part discussion about the filmmaking behind two of our favourite films: Richard Brooks’ IN COLD BLOOD and Jean-Pierre Melville’s ARMY OF SHADOWS. The films may contrast in their expression of cinematic storytelling with each other and with films made today, but we find, over the course of these two episodes, that both films share and build on the fundamental elements of what makes a movie, a movie. This episode focuses on IN COLD BLOOD, and we discuss how the film frequently subverts expectations through its structure, cinematography, and editing. Joe also breaks down composer Quincy Jones’ evocative score, and he reveals how the film radically flew in the face of a soon-to-be-abandoned Hays Code. Additionally, we look at the innovations in filmmaking technologies and techniques from cinema’s youth to the 1960s, and Joe presents his theory of the 30-year-cycle of evolution in the film industry. Plus, we take a moment to consider the links between Soviet propaganda’s understanding of montage and the modern analytics and algorithms that manipulate how images are presented on the internet today.

Recommended Viewing: IN COLD BLOOD (1967), ARMY OF SHADOWS (1969)

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0:00.0	Hi and welcome to Season 2 of the Team Deacons podcast,
0:07.0	a collection of informal conversations between Roger and James Deacons and a guest.
0:13.0	We never know where the conversation will take us, so listen in and see where it goes.
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1:30.8	Today we're doing something fun. We have with us Joe Walker, editor extraordinaire. His
1:37.1	credits are too many to list and includes Sicario, Blade Runner, 2009, Dune 1, and
1:43.0	Dune 2. We'll talk first about the evolution of film cutting
1:47.7	and then go on to doing a deep dive into the films in cold blood and possibly Army of Shadows.
1:55.0	All very big topics, so let's see where it goes. Let's start with film cutting.
2:02.5	You had something to say, Rob.
2:07.6	Yeah, I just want to start it off because it's really interesting in this day and age.
2:10.4	We're doing films that are one shot, right?
2:15.4	You've got Victoria and Boiling Point and the TV series Adolescence,
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