Support for NPR and the following message come from the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation,

investing in creative thinkers and problem solvers who help people, communities, and the planet flourish.

More information is available at Hewlett.org.

This is fresh air. I'm Terry Gross.

Election season is underway, with primaries today in Texas, North Carolina, and Arkansas.

Meanwhile, President Trump is pushing Congress to pass legislation, the SAVE Act, that would change

how every American citizen registers to vote and votes. Predictions are that millions of American

citizens would be unable to fill the

ID requirements. It would cause chaos at the polls, make it chaotic for counties and states

overseeing elections, and possibly make it challenging to decipher who really won. But Congress seems

unwilling to pass that, so President Trump is threatening to issue an

executive order that would do all that and more. My guest, Rick Hassan, is an expert in election

law. He founded the popular election law blog. He's a professor of law and political science

and director of the Safeguarding Democracy

Project at UCLA School of Law, and the author of numerous books, including A Real Right to Vote,

how a constitutional amendment can safeguard American democracy. And the forthcoming book,

Unbent Arc,

The Rise and Decline of American Democracy, 1964 to 2024.

Rick Hassan, welcome back to fresh air.

I want to start by expressing my condolences.

I know that your mother died in late February about a week ago, and I'm very

sorry. Thank you. I'd like to talk with you about the executive order or orders that President

...