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GZERO World with Ian Bremmer

A Long Blood-Stained Land

GZERO World with Ian Bremmer

GZERO Media

International Relations, Government, Foreign Policy, Gzero World, News Commentary, Trump, News, Global Economy, Geopolitics, Politics, Ian Bremmer

4.6684 Ratings

🗓️ 4 November 2019

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

When President Trump decided to officially withdraw American troops from Kurdish-controlled Syria, many people, including some in his own administration, were shocked. But the Kurds, themselves? Today’s guest says, “Not so much.”   In this episode, Ian Bremmer breaks down the long and tragic history of the Kurdish people, the group’s geopolitical significance in the region and beyond, and the many times the U.S. has left this ally stranded politically or militarily. This show also contains a field interview with NYC pizza magnate Hakki Akdeniz, a Kurdish immigrant who came to the U.S. broke and homeless. He now has a booming business, more than 3 million Instagram followers, and he’s giving back by feeding homeless people on the city streets.

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0:00.0

Do you think Turkey today is an ally of the United States?

0:13.3

Oh, I have to think about this, actually. I don't have a quick and clever answer for you.

0:19.3

We have no friends but the mountains.

0:21.7

That's an old Kurdish proverb that pretty much sums up their current troubles.

0:25.9

With U.S. special forces largely removed from northeastern Syria and the future of Kurdish homes being carved up in Ankara, Damascus, and Moscow, this stateless mid-eastern people again are fighting themselves in a familiar station,

0:39.9

the victims of changing priorities.

0:42.2

When President Trump decided to officially withdraw American troops from the region, many people,

0:46.8

including some in his own administration, were shocked.

0:50.0

But the Kurds themselves, I guess today says not so much.

0:56.2

Hello and welcome to the G-Zero World podcast. I'm Ian Bremmer, and this is the place to hear extended interviews with the world

1:01.5

leaders, newsmakers, and experts I feature on my public television show every week. After nearly

1:07.4

four years of heavy fighting, Kurdish fighters, supported by U.S. forces, had helped

1:12.5

to defeat much of ISIS. It wasn't something that lawmakers wanted to walk away from in the United

1:17.8

States. Though America's adversary Syrian President Bashar al-Assad had effectively won back much of

1:23.6

his country, success against ISIS was among the rare triumphs for the U.S. Kurdish

1:28.9

alliance.

1:29.9

The Kurds had lost more than 11,000 soldiers in that fighting.

1:34.2

But the partnership was clear.

1:36.2

America got greater influence in the region and an ally willing to do the heavy lifting

1:39.9

against ISIS.

1:41.3

The Kurds got the implicit backing of the U.S. military, keeping their rivals at bay.

1:46.5

But what about afterwards? With virtually all of ISIS territory regained and thousands of

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