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🗓️ 9 October 2023
⏱️ 87 minutes
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Rebecca Zung, a negotiation expert and lawyer, joins the conversation to discuss her expertise in negotiating with narcissists.
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Connect with Rebecca!
Websites - https://www.slaythebully.com/
https://www.rebeccazung.com/
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/rebeccazung/
YouTube - @RebeccaZungEsq
She initially focused on high-end negotiations and created content on general negotiation strategies on her YouTube channel. However, her course, "Slaying Negotiation with a Narcissist," gained immense popularity, leading her to become known for her work in dealing with narcissistic personalities.
Rebecca highlights key characteristics of narcissists in negotiations: they enjoy making things difficult for others, constantly change their demands, and seek control to feed their ego and maintain their image.
When dealing with a narcissist, Rebecca recommends following the SLAY method:
1. **Set Clear Goals:** Determine what you want to achieve in the negotiation.
2. **Leverage:** Identify what is important to the narcissist and threaten their supply that matters more than your request.
3. **Anticipate Their Moves:** Predict their behavior and stay prepared.
4. **Yield the Right of Way:** Allow them to believe they came up with the solution.
Rebecca explains that when you lack leverage, you must create it. Narcissists often have something they fear being exposed to, as they tend to lie and act impulsively.
Narcissists lack empathy and display extreme arrogance. Their confidence is a facade, concealing deep shame and feelings of worthlessness. Rebecca believes narcissism stems from nurture, not nature, often originating from childhood trauma.
Ryan and Rebecca also discuss the opposite of narcissism, exploring how a sense of true value and trust in God can empower individuals to overcome the fear of others' opinions.
Rebecca's work extends to providing legal assistance to those who cannot afford legal fees. Her organization connects donors with lawyers who can help people facing various legal challenges.
Visit slaythebully.com for information on Rebecca’s book. Find Rebecca Zung on Instagram at @rebeccazung and on her YouTube channel at @rebeccazungesq.
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0:00.0 | Being a woman in the business space, especially as a lawyer and everything else, |
0:04.0 | in male dominated settings. How does that play with your negotiations and everything else? |
0:08.8 | Really 90% of winning happens before you walk into a room. A lot of it is body language and power. |
0:16.1 | The one who is willing to walk away always has the best leverage. |
0:20.7 | You gotta have self-awareness of whether you have weak leverage or strong leverage. |
0:24.9 | What do you do when you're the one with weak leverage and you're very aware of it? |
0:28.0 | You gotta figure out a way to what's up wealth builders? |
0:31.7 | Today, I have got a negotiation expert on so if you are trying to improve your sales game, |
0:37.5 | get a raise, get that next deal, this conversation is going to be for you. |
0:43.1 | I have somebody who actually is a lawyer, which you probably haven't heard from many of the sales |
0:48.2 | trainers I've had on. So she has a lot of experience negotiating high level deals with high level |
0:55.0 | people. And I got none of the then Rebecca Zung on. How you doing? |
0:59.2 | I'm doing great. It's so nice to meet you and so nice to be here with you. |
1:03.7 | Yeah. I appreciate you coming on. Like I said, I don't think I've ever had a lawyer on the show. |
1:10.1 | This might be my first one. Well, I'm honored. |
1:13.4 | Yeah. And you've got a book that I guess by this time will have already been released. |
1:19.6 | Yeah. Slay the bully. How did negotiate with narcissists and win? |
1:24.0 | So I guess from your experience as a lawyer, like why pick the niche of narcissist? |
1:29.9 | Is it just that you found that almost most of the people you were negotiating with were narcissists |
1:34.4 | for what? Well, I did do high net with divorce litigation for a long time, which |
1:40.0 | we'd seem like yes, that would be the natural fittest to why I would start talking about this |
1:46.9 | on YouTube. But that's actually not my why. After I merged my practice with two other lawyers |
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