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A Killing Jolts Sweden’s Rap Scene

Popcast

The New York Times

Music Interviews, Music Commentary, Music

3.61.5K Ratings

🗓️ 26 January 2022

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

A conversation about hip-hop’s evolution in the country, and how a high-profile shooting thrust the music into the spotlight. Guests: Joe Coscarelli, Petter Hallen and Alex Marshall.

Transcript

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0:00.0

One of the New York Times' podcasts, your unfulfilled wish list of music news and criticism,

0:14.0

I'm your host, John Keramaka.

0:16.0

The last couple of years, I feel like there have been a number of stories that have maybe

0:33.1

gone a tiny bit under the radar just because of the grand scale of global trauma that we

0:39.6

are all going through. However, one thing that I caught wind of, and Joe and I would talk about

0:47.2

quite a lot back in October, was the murder of Aynar, who is one of the biggest rappers in Sweden,

0:55.4

and reading up a little bit to the best of our abilities here on the backstory. It seemed like

1:01.8

there were a lot of fascinating things happening with how hip-hop was moving in Sweden and the liabilities

1:09.2

for some, frankly, some of its biggest artists. Fortunately, Joe was able to partner up with Alex

1:15.6

Marshall, who is the Times' European Cultural Reporter based in London. Alex went over to Stockholm,

1:23.0

and together they pulled together a story that came out a couple of weeks ago that really

1:28.8

serves as a great primer for the tragedy of Aynar's murder and also the broader context of how hip-hop

1:36.3

is working currently in Sweden and what it means for some of its younger artists as they begin

1:43.2

to find success on the internet. Joe Cosgrole is here. Joe, hey. Good morning, John. How you doing?

1:50.2

Yeah, it is morning. I want to emphasize, at least for me, it's morning. Alex, for you, it's

1:54.1

not. Alex Marshall is here. Hi, it's 4-11, so lovely afternoon. That sounds like my prime time,

2:01.1

and we are also joined by one of the resources for the story who was so helpful and so knowledgeable

2:06.4

about what's going on in Sweden, and that is Petr Halyan. Petr is a DJ on the public service radio

2:12.0

station, P3Dingata, and a long time music journalist and former commenter in the Cocaine Blunts comment

2:18.6

section. It's true. We spoke a lot about Cocaine Blunts. Shout out now, shout out Andrew,

2:25.2

love you, miss you. Petr, welcome to Popcast. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. It is 5-11,

2:32.1

let's not let you ask, but that's okay. No, this is, you know, Popcast is often accused of living

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