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self will thank you. G'day humans welcome to the safe space for dangerous ideas, and it's one of the most

dangerous ideas that we ever contemplate. How did it come to pass that physical material

ejected from stars has assembled itself into your brain, capable of gazing back on those stars and thinking

stone thoughts about them as you pull on a reefer lying on your back as a 15-year-old child

looking up at the stars, or maybe I'm just talking about my own experiences here.

The mystery of consciousness has perplexed philosophers for many, many years.

I felt like it was time to talk to one of the world's

leading philosophers of mind, who is currently working on a book about whether artificial

intelligence will ever become conscious, and if it does, whether we will be obligated to give

it rights and to treat it ethically. Eric Schwitzgable is an absolute leader in his field.

He's a professor of philosophy at the University of California Riverside. He specializes in the philosophy of mind, in moral psychology and in epistemology. He writes a psychology philosophy blog called the splintered mind, and I first came across him in his book, The Weirdness of the World. We talk here mostly about the competing theories of what consciousness is and how it arises,

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