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You're listening to the political scene. I'm Tyler Faggib, a senior editor at The New Yorker.

More than 30,000 people are dead after back-to-back earthquakes in Turkey and Syria last week.

It's a new level of disaster in a region that has been pummeled by violence and terrorism.

As a Syrian refugee in Turkey, quoted in a story for New Yorker.com, put it, we've had 11 years

of war in Syria, but what happened in 11 years there happened in 40 seconds here.

Ben Taub, a New Yorker staff writer, has reported extensively from the Turkish-Syrian border.

But his most recent piece for the magazine was about a man who traveled around the world in a balloon.

Today, you'll hear him unravel two of the biggest stories in the news, the aftermath of a major

humanitarian crisis and the use of balloons for international espionage.

Hey, Ben, thank you for coming today.

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