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Hello, I'm Harriet Gilbert. Thank you for downloading a good read, the podcasts,

where two guests and I recommend books we love and describe why we love them.

We don't always see eye to eye, but I hope you'll find some great reading suggestions here. Hello, it's lovely to be back and joined today, albeit for our remote

technology by the co-founders of Black Girls Book Club, a collective they established four years

ago to celebrate black women and their contribution to literature.

They are Natalie Carter and Melissa Cummings Quarry.

And besides hosting events with authors such as Bernardine Everisto and Mallory Blackman,

they also have their own book in the pipeline, a non-fiction book for children called Grown, the Black Girl's Guide to Growing Up. That's Grown with a W, not

ugh. At least I assume that's right. Listen, before we go to your good reads, maybe Melissa,

would you just say a little bit more about Black Girls Book Club? I mean, what's it about?

Well, it was established in 2016 and effectively

it was an idea that Natalie and I came up with. Actually, it was my idea, but she wanted to be

involved. She wanted to be a part of it. No, she, I need you to stop saying that. I need you to stop

saying that. Let's just say it was an idea we came up with. It was a collective idea and

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