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Hello, I'm Harriet Gilbert. Thank you for downloading a good read, the podcasts, where two guests and I recommend books we love and describe why we love them.

We don't always see eye to eye, but I hope you'll find some great

reading suggestions here. Hello, today I'm joined by the journalist and author Dolly Alderton,

columnist for the Sunday Times, co-host of the pop culture and current affairs podcast The High

Low and whose memoir, Everything I Know about love, is now out in paperback with an additional chapter called Everything I Know at 30.

With Dolly is the erstwhile police officer, now best-selling novelist Claire McIntosh, author of I Let You Go, I See You, Let Me Lie, and her fourth novel just published after the end.

Dolly, would you start us off with your choice of a

good read? What is it? My good read is the Rachel Papers by Martin Amos, which is a story about

a young man transitioning from boyhood to manhood, standing on the precipice of his 20s in what he sees as a kind of very poignant moment of his life.

And he has big ambitions for things, very specific things that he wants to do before he turns 20,

one of which is have an affair with an older woman.

He finds this older woman. I think she is two months older than him.

He's a woman called Rachel. And the book is called the Rachel Papers because he has a kind of

very self-indulgent dossier in which he records his process of seduction with women before Rachel, and he calls it the

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