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relationships, identity, comedy, even one that mixes poetry, music and inner city life.

So one day I'll be helping host develop their ideas, the next fact-checking, a feature,

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Hello, I'm Harriet Gilbert.

Thank you for downloading a good read, the podcasts,

where two guests and I recommend books we love and describe why we love them.

We don't always see eye to eye, but I hope you'll find

some great reading suggestions here. Hello, today we've got love, life, death, family, flat sharing.

We've pretty well covered the waterfront. And with me to introduce their good read, our first

the actor and writer Andy Osho., seen on screen in among much else

the Netflix crime series Stay Close and the BBC HBO drama I May Destroy You and his second

novel, The Tough Crowd, comes out this month. With her is the poet Nikita Gill whose eight

collections include most recently where hope comes from, poems of resilience,

healing and light. And last year's, these are the words, fearless verse to find your voice.

Andy, would you start us off first, Andy Oshow? What is your choice of a good read?

So my choice is The Flat Share by Beth O'Leary. This is about a woman who's just

broken up with Justin. Is that right? Yeah. Is it Justin? Yeah. Okay. Thanks guys. So this is

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