You're about to listen to a BBC podcast, but this is about something else you might enjoy.

My name's Katie Lecky and I'm an assistant commissioner for on demand music on BBC Sounds.

The BBC has an incredible musical heritage and culture and as a music lover, I love being part of that.

With music on sounds, we offer collections and mixes for everything, from workouts to

helping you nod off, boogie in your kitchen, or even just a moment of calm. And they're all

put together by people who know their stuff. So if you want some expertly curated music in your

life, check out BBC Sounds. Just before this BBC podcast gets underway, here's something you may not know.

My name's Linda Davies, and I commissioned podcasts for BBC Sounds.

As you'd expect, at the BBC we make podcasts of the very highest quality,

featuring the most knowledgeable experts and genuinely engaging voices.

What you may not know is that the BBC makes podcasts about all kinds of things,

like pop stars, poltergeists, cricket and conspiracy theories.

And that's just a few examples.

If you'd like to discover something a little bit unexpected,

find your next podcast over at BBC Sounds.

Thanks for downloading a good read. You can find more information on all the BBC downloads at BBC.co.com.uk slash radio four.

Hello, welcome. Today, a novel that was almost called Catch 18. It got a snappier title, but is it a good read?

With me to argue the point are first the comic Al Murray, whose alter ego the pub landlord

has recently been touring the UK with a show called The Only Way is Epic and will soon be embarking

on a one-man, one-governor tour. Al's multitudinous TV programmes include Compete for the Meat and the award-winning Al-Murray's

Happy Hour. He hosts Radio 5 Live 7 Day Sunday, and his book, Watching War Films with My Dad,

has just been published in paperback. With him is the Egyptian political economist, Tarek Osman,

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