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A Good Death

Thanks For Asking

Feelings & Co.

Society & Culture, Personal Journals, Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.713.4K Ratings

🗓️ 27 April 2021

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

We all want a good death — a death where we’re surrounded by the people we love and don’t feel any fear or pain. A good death is what Ron Deprez wanted when his body became ravaged by ALS … and thanks to his daughter, Esmé, and Maine’s death with dignity legislation, that’s exactly what he got. In this episode, Esmé Deprez shares her father’s story with us. Read Esmé's article here. Support our independent production (and get bonus content galore!) by joining TTFA Premium. We now offer tiers as low as $4.99 / month. Sign up. Our email subscribers get first dibs on ticket sales, new merch, show announcements and more. Join our mailing list here. Nora also writes sad & funny books! You can buy them here. Did you know we’re on TikTok? Yep, it’s true. Follow Nora. You can catch up with TTFA on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook using @ttfapodcast. Nora's Instagram is @noraborealis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

There's a quote from a Tool Goande's book Being Mortal, where he says,

0:07.2

endings matter, not just for the person, but perhaps even more for the ones left behind.

0:14.1

Endings matter. They matter in books and podcast movies in

0:17.6

lives, which is what a Tool Goande was talking about. And I think we all want to die as well as

0:24.9

possible, right? Not alone in a hospital bed with our loved ones on FaceTime, not painfully or scared

0:32.3

or anxious but safe and loved. This is the story of a good death. Ron David DePrez had a good death,

0:42.6

and the ending mattered greatly not only to him, but to his daughter Esme.

0:47.2

When we talked to Esme, she was 38 weeks pregnant and a few days out from a scheduled C section.

0:58.2

Right, I just, in the minute that you said 38 weeks pregnant, I felt like that heaviness.

1:03.9

It just started like, oh man, it can feel it had that, okay.

1:09.8

I was like, is it falling out right now? I cannot tell.

1:12.7

Now Esme made it through the entire interview without being once. So for that, we all send a round

1:21.2

of a plus. Esme lives in California, but she grew up in Maine. And like her dad, she's a proud

1:28.7

manor. That's what people in Maine call themselves. Learn something new every day. And being a

1:33.5

manor meant that they did a lot of outdoorsy things. Esme and her dad, they went skiing, they went

1:38.5

hiking, they wore LL bean. Ron is independent. He's self-reliant. And it's not like he sits around

1:46.1

talking about death with his kids, but Esme knows even when she's little what her dad would not want.

1:55.0

The only thing I knew was that my dad was not interested in dying in a hospital or a nursing

2:02.6

home or an institutional setting like that, hooked up to tubes. He had kind of always said, you know,

2:08.5

I'd rather go back in the woods with my glauque and end it there if I have a terminal illness.

2:15.6

Ron was a public health epidemiologist who went to Harvard. He was athletic. He ran 18 marathons

2:21.2

in his life, 18 borderline too many. And he was also notoriously cheap.

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