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🗓️ 27 April 2021
⏱️ 43 minutes
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0:00.0 | There's a quote from a Tool Goande's book Being Mortal, where he says, |
0:07.2 | endings matter, not just for the person, but perhaps even more for the ones left behind. |
0:14.1 | Endings matter. They matter in books and podcast movies in |
0:17.6 | lives, which is what a Tool Goande was talking about. And I think we all want to die as well as |
0:24.9 | possible, right? Not alone in a hospital bed with our loved ones on FaceTime, not painfully or scared |
0:32.3 | or anxious but safe and loved. This is the story of a good death. Ron David DePrez had a good death, |
0:42.6 | and the ending mattered greatly not only to him, but to his daughter Esme. |
0:47.2 | When we talked to Esme, she was 38 weeks pregnant and a few days out from a scheduled C section. |
0:58.2 | Right, I just, in the minute that you said 38 weeks pregnant, I felt like that heaviness. |
1:03.9 | It just started like, oh man, it can feel it had that, okay. |
1:09.8 | I was like, is it falling out right now? I cannot tell. |
1:12.7 | Now Esme made it through the entire interview without being once. So for that, we all send a round |
1:21.2 | of a plus. Esme lives in California, but she grew up in Maine. And like her dad, she's a proud |
1:28.7 | manor. That's what people in Maine call themselves. Learn something new every day. And being a |
1:33.5 | manor meant that they did a lot of outdoorsy things. Esme and her dad, they went skiing, they went |
1:38.5 | hiking, they wore LL bean. Ron is independent. He's self-reliant. And it's not like he sits around |
1:46.1 | talking about death with his kids, but Esme knows even when she's little what her dad would not want. |
1:55.0 | The only thing I knew was that my dad was not interested in dying in a hospital or a nursing |
2:02.6 | home or an institutional setting like that, hooked up to tubes. He had kind of always said, you know, |
2:08.5 | I'd rather go back in the woods with my glauque and end it there if I have a terminal illness. |
2:15.6 | Ron was a public health epidemiologist who went to Harvard. He was athletic. He ran 18 marathons |
2:21.2 | in his life, 18 borderline too many. And he was also notoriously cheap. |
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