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A Former Federal Judge Fears For Democracy

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πŸ—“οΈ 3 July 2024

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

David Tatel is a former civil rights lawyer who spent 30 years as a judge on the D.C. Circuit, the nation's second highest court. He retired earlier this year. As an appellate judge, he was required to follow Supreme Court precedents, but what about precedents that resulted from what he considers flawed judicial reasoning? We talk with Tatel about being a judge during a time he thought the Supreme Court veered off course β€” and being a judge who is blind. His new book is called Vision: A Memoir of Blindness and Justice.

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After working as a civil rights lawyer, my guest David Tatel served as a judge on the US Court of Appeals for the DC Circuit, the nation's second highest Court of Appeals, with only the Supreme Court above it.

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In his new memoir, he writes that he became tired of having his work reviewed

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by a Supreme Court that didn't seem to share the principles he dedicated his life to.

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This week's decision about presidential immunity he dedicated his life to.

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This week's decision about presidential immunity

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is an example of why he's lost faith in the court.

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He's seen the court overturn cases

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he worked on as a lawyer and as a judge, including voting rights.

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Last week, the Supreme Court overturned the Chevron decision, a decision that said

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courts have to show deference to agency experts when those experts interpret the laws they enforce.

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This was a disturbing decision for Tatal because the D.C. Circuit on which he served rules on cases related to federal agencies and many rulings

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now risk being overturned.

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Teter was appointed to the D.C. Circuit to fill the vacancy when President Clinton nominated Ruth

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Bader Ginsburg to the Supreme Court. Tatel retired from the D.C. Circuit

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earlier this year. For half of his life, Tatel has been blind as a result of the progressive eye disease retinitis pigmentosa.

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For years he kept that hidden from colleagues and the public coming up with techniques and excuses to cover up. Finally he

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decided he needed a white cane. He was in his 70s when he was persuaded to get a

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