A Forever Pandemic

Social Distance

The Atlantic Monthly Group, LLC

Health & Fitness, News, Science

4.6 • 935 Ratings

🗓️ 12 February 2021

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Vaccines are a public good. And if we don’t make a lot more of them, COVID-19 may never really go away. Gregg Gonsalves, an epidemiology professor at Yale’s School of Public Health who joined the show in May to talk about his career as an AIDS activist, explains to Jim and Maeve how our moral failure to help vaccinate the rest of the world may come back to haunt us — and what big steps we’d need to take to prevent that. Please fill out our listener survey at theatlantic.com/socialdistancesurvey. It helps us understand who we’re making this show for and how we can keep improving it. (And it helps us to make new shows that suit what you like!) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hi, Mave. Hi,
0:05.0	Mave.
0:06.0	Hi, thank you for having me again.
0:09.0	Thank you for joining me.
0:12.0	Welcome to you and everyone to social distance,
0:15.1	the Atlantic's podcast about the pandemic.
0:18.0	I'm James Hamblin, you can call me Jim,
0:21.0	and with me today is Maeve Higgins sitting in for Catherine Wells.
0:25.2	But you can call me Jim.
0:27.1	And I will also call you Jim.
0:30.2	Just so everything's confusing. It's been two weeks since we spoke, Maeve. How have you been?
0:37.6	It has. I've been fine. I've been putting into practice one of your pieces that you wrote not about the
0:44.8	coronavirus it was before that it was about press-ups or about push-ups do you remember?
0:50.1	Push-ups which you call press-ups. Is that just you or is that regional? So I guess you do not call them press-ups but it's the same thing.
0:59.2	I would think of pressing as more something that would be done with like a finger like pressing a button.
1:04.8	Oh that's how I do push-ups. Oh.
1:07.4	Wait you don't do push-ups just on one finger?
1:12.1	Dude, that's the easiest way.
1:15.0	Oh.
1:16.0	Well, I guess that's what I'm working on.
1:20.0	I don't really know.
1:21.0	I remembered this piece that you wrote and it was like don't worry about
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