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A First Step Toward AI Regulation with Tom Wheeler

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🗓️ 2 November 2023

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Tristan and Aza discuss President Biden’s executive order on AI with Tom Wheeler, former chairman of the Federal Communications Commission.

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0:00.0

All right, welcome to your undivided attention. I'm Tristan Harris, and I'm Azeraska.

0:09.1

And there's a lot of things that are moving with AI, most of it can feel overwhelming,

0:13.1

if you open Twitter. But as many things that are developing with AI, there's a lot of developments

0:17.5

in the response to AI. How do we get this right? How do we end up in a stable world?

0:21.3

And we wanted to make sure that you listeners were aware of some of the things that actually are

0:25.1

happening that are good news. This week, Vice President Harris and Secretary of Commerce,

0:29.3

General Mundo are attending the UK AI Summit. We're seeing many governments around the world stepping

0:34.5

up and treating this problem seriously. We're seeing that China will be attending the UK AI Summit

0:38.8

this week. The G7 group of industrialized countries released an 11 point code of conduct

0:43.9

for AI companies, including rules for advanced foundation models. There's also been private meetings

0:48.5

where Western and Chinese academic AI researchers have been meeting to discuss shared frameworks

0:53.2

for getting to AI safety. There's also a public letter for an AI treaty, AItreaty.org,

0:58.8

that's urging the need for an international agreement on AI safety. And also, we personally

1:03.0

have been busy. About two weeks ago, I did a appearance on Bill Mar, talking about how we

1:07.6

respond to AI risks. And I just flew back from Washington, D.C., where I was with President Biden

1:12.5

for the announcement of the long awaited executive order on AI, which is what this episode is all about.

1:18.4

So this 111 page executive order is a sweeping announcement that imposes guardrails on

1:26.0

many aspects of the new AI models. One of the remarkable things about this executive order

1:30.5

is that it really takes seriously the full scale of impacts AI has in society, and that's why

1:36.4

it's so broad. So it mandates that companies share internal testing data, and very importantly,

1:41.9

that companies must notify the government when they are training new frontier foundation models.

1:46.9

That is models that go beyond 10 to the 26 flops, which is a fancy way of saying things that

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