A deep dive into the world of porn with Jo Bartosch
The Two Matts
The New World
4.4 • 523 Ratings
🗓️ 11 November 2025
⏱️ 62 minutes
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Summary
The Matts join the fray on chaos at the BBC … what does it mean for the future of the corporation and why we should all be glad to pay for it. Then they are joined by Jo Bartosch, co-author of Pornocracy, an argument about the evils of pornography in today’s world. How has porn changed in the age of the internet - and how has it changed the human species. You will be astonished at some of Jo’s findings. It goes without saying this podcast contains some adult themes so listening in the car with kids is not a great idea. Enjoy!
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| 1:00.6 | Hello and happy Tuesday. Happy Tuesday, one and all. It's, well, you can say one and all, |
| 1:07.8 | but you cannot say happy Tuesday to the good folks of the BBC. |
| 1:12.2 | No, you can't. And just before we go on to the BBC. |
| 1:13.5 | We got a really good guest after the break. Yeah, if you're bored of the BBC chat. Which is conceivable. Which would be understandable. But we do feel the need. We're going to try and make it not boring. We're going to make it as snappy as we can, but we do feel we want to say stuff. |
| 1:26.2 | But after the break, we've got a fascinating conversation that we just recorded, so we've done it backwards, with Joe Bartosh about her new book, Pornocracy, which is a... |
| 1:38.3 | She's written with Robert Jessel. |
| 1:39.3 | With Robert Jessel, which is a deep dive into the world of pornography as it is today. |
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