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A Death Doula Says 'Get Real' About The End

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🗓️ 17 April 2024

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Alua Arthur works with families, caretakers, and people close to death who want to be intentional about the end of life. She's learned through her work and her own experiences with loss that facing the inevitable can help lessen the anxiety and fear so many of us have around death. Her new book is called, Briefly Perfectly Human.

Also, we remember painter Faith Ringgold, who died Saturday at the age of 93.

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Learn more at plus.nPR.org. This is Fresh Air. I'm Tanya Mosley. Have you thought about your death?

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Who you want to be there with you during your final days and how you want it to happen?

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Death Dula Aluwa Arthur opened up a national conversation last year when she gave a

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TED Talk about death and why thinking about it can help us live a better life.

0:42.1

I want to die at sunset. I want to watch the sky change and turn

0:46.7

orange and pink and purple as day dies in tonight. I want to hear the wind fluttering through the leaves and smell

0:56.0

very faintly, nog champa amber incense, but very faintly because scent can be tough

1:00.4

on a dying body. I want to die with socks on my feet because I get cold and if I die

1:06.6

with a bra on I'm coming to haunt everybody. I will terrorize you and that is a threat okay I want to dye my own bed in my own home

1:17.7

with my loved ones nearby who are talking amongst themselves and comforting each other for this very big thing that's about to happen in their lives.

1:26.2

I want to die with all of my affairs in order, so my loved ones have nothing to worry about but their grief after I die.

1:33.6

That was death Dula, Elua Arthur, talking about the kind of death she hopes for when her time

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comes.

1:40.2

Her TED Talk about death sparked for Elua a deeper conversation that is now a book called Briefly Perfectly Human,

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Making an authentic life by getting real about the end.

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Elua Arthur is also an attorney and founder of Going with Grace, an end of life planning

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organization that supports people as they ask the question and answer for themselves,

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what should I do to be at peace with myself so that I live in the present and

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die peacefully?

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