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🗓️ 15 July 2025
⏱️ 38 minutes
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0:52.2 | I was going to start in a strange place. |
0:54.6 | This is Holly Brewer. |
0:56.2 | Hi, I'm Holly Brewer. |
0:57.8 | I'm a professor of history at the University of Maryland College Park, and I work on early |
1:04.9 | modern debates about justice and power. |
1:08.4 | I called Holly up a couple of weeks ago because I've been thinking a lot about this principle |
1:12.7 | that we have tended to agree on here in the United States. |
1:16.4 | We're a republic. |
1:17.4 | We have no kings. |
1:19.7 | We have no kings. |
1:22.1 | And I wanted to know how that started. |
1:24.4 | I mean, I know we had a declaration of independence. |
1:26.7 | I know we fought a long and brutal revolutionary war to secure that started. I mean, I know we had a declaration of independence. I know we fought a long and brutal |
1:28.9 | revolutionary war to secure that independence, those blessings of liberty. And I know that we wrote |
1:35.8 | and then rewrote a constitution that cemented that principle. But when and how did that become |
1:43.3 | something that we ostensibly agreed on? |
1:47.4 | All right? |
1:48.6 | So let's start in a strange place. |
1:53.6 | It's with an image that we think was written by Benjamin Franklin's grandmother. |
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