On this episode of the heat check, welcome to a special episode, guys.

We got our first interview, all the fucking season.

We're going to do a deep dive into the WMBA and its finances.

And then we're going to pivot to a fascinating interview with Professor David Barry.

He's actually one of the world's leading experts on the economics of sports, which I thought was super fascinating.

He's here to debunk a lot of myths about not just the NBA, the WMBA, and also the murky finances involved in both.

Anthony, my guy.

Drop that motherfucker beat.

This should be re-onable Odyssey is too cheap to pay for the rights.

Let's go.

Thank you. Okay, I am super excited for this conversation that we have with economics professor David Berry,

who is an expert on the finances of the NBA, of the WMBA,

because something super interesting happened last week.

No, I'm not talking about how the Minnesota Links got hosed in game five of the WMBA finals,

which you've already discussed. I am talking about how in the midst of one of the most exciting times in women's sports,

one of the most exciting times in women's sports, one of the most exciting times in women's

basketball ever. Like it was like, oh, Sabrina, game winner, bang, bang, Yanescar. And it's like,

New York Post, WMBA is losing money. Like, whoa, hold on. They're like, oh yeah, WMBA, you think it's cool,

you think it's hot, you think everybody wants to watch it, still fucking sucks. It's still fucking

not profitable. And I was really shocked by that. Keep in mind that the article dropped

October 18th. And the article basically said the WMBA was not only losing 40 million this year,

a year in which the WMBA was the most popular that it's ever been by magnitudes,

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