A Clash Over Inclusion at Pride

The Daily

The New York Times

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🗓️ 29 June 2019

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Fifty years after the Stonewall riots, as the largest L.G.B.T.Q. Pride celebration in the world takes place in New York this weekend, some leaders of the community are asking a difficult question: What’s lost as the Pride movement becomes mainstream? Guests: Natalie Kitroeff, a business reporter for The New York Times, spoke with Shane O’Neill, a video editor. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Background reading:Divisions have emerged in the L.G.B.T.Q. community over the role of corporate sponsors and of the police in Pride celebrations.Who threw the first brick during the Stonewall uprising? Whatever you’ve heard, it’s probably a myth — and that’s O.K. Here’s why.To capture the evolving ways in which we describe ourselves, The Times asked readers to tell us who they are. More than 5,000 people wrote in.

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0:00.0	From the New York Times, I'm Michael Barrow. This is The Daily.
0:09.0	This weekend, as the largest gay pride celebration in the world takes place in New York,
0:14.0	some leaders of the LGBT community are asking a difficult question.
0:20.0	What's lost as their movement becomes so mainstream?
0:25.0	Natalie Kittroof speaks with our colleague, Shane O'Neil.
0:32.0	It's Saturday, June 29.
0:37.0	Shane, how did Pride begin?
0:40.0	That's a big question, Natalie.
0:43.0	What we think of today as like gay pride, which I think when you say gay pride to someone,
0:47.0	you think of, you know, go-go boys on a float in a big city and you think of, you know,
0:51.0	rainbows and partying in the streets in the hot summer sun.
0:55.0	That can be traced to the Stonewall Rebellion of 1969.
1:04.0	So first of all, it's kind of impossible to really give a monolithic story of Stonewall.
1:08.0	No one can 100% agree on what exactly happened that night.
1:12.0	Here are the facts that we do know, which is that the Stonewall Inn was a bar owned by the Mafia
1:17.0	that catered to gay clientele. I also use the word gay because that's the way that most of the people
1:22.0	who were there would have identified their community.
1:24.0	Although today we would probably call it LGBT.
1:26.0	And at 1.20am on June 28, the police raided that bar.
1:31.0	That in itself wasn't unusual. There were a lot of police raids on gay bars at the time.
1:36.0	What was unusual is that the patrons didn't disperse that they stuck around and they ended up resisting.
1:49.0	And the crowd grew outside of the bar and it grew into what some people call a riot,
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