You know, sometimes we meet on the terrain of suffering where we can't genuinely meet anywhere

else.

And it's being the most vulnerable, it's being the most honest.

It's leaving aside, you know, kind of titles or job descriptions and saying, yeah, it's rough,

you know, things are really hard.

I'm Maura Arons-Mili, and this is The Anxious Achiever.

We look at stories from business leaders who've dealt with anxiety, depression, or other mental health challenges, how they fell down, how they pick themselves up, and how they hope

work will change in the future.

The phrase, there's an app for that, has perhaps never been more true than when it comes to

mindfulness, meditation, and even mental

health in today's world. At a time when mental health, at least on the surface, has gone mainstream,

with huge tech companies building brands around it, it's good to remember that mental health

is still stigmatized in many organizations, forcing us to hide our suffering. And while an app is a good

start, treating mental illness, or even increasing mental wellness requires going deep,

looking at your pain, acknowledging the hard stuff. This is where mindfulness and meditation

can be so powerful.

So today, we're going back to the basics, the tool in the toolkit for all overworked,

anxious achievers that is mindfulness.

And we'll speak to one of the great masters, Sharon Salzberg.

In the world of meditation, Sharon is a renowned teacher, a best-selling author. Her sayings

live on mugs and calendars. Sharon still gets anxious from time to time. She even worries about

letting people down. But Sharon inspires me and so many others because she doesn't shy away

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