I won't tell you that it's gonna be okay.

I won't tell you that it's going to be okay.

And welcome to another episode of McCarty

Some of us Podcast. Today we have one of my good friends

from the other side of the aisle, somebody that we hang out with, or used to hang out with, but life and family have kind of made sure that we were separate and apart. But he does have a new book coming out under fire 13 rules for surviving cancel culture and other crises or crisis crises crises.

Crisis. We'll figure out how to pronounce it as we go. But what's going on Wesley Donnelly, how you feeling man?

What's up man? Feeling great. It's been a while. It's been too long. You know, we start each one of my shows the same way.

And I want to kind of start right there with you, which is,

walk us through the arc of your career.

I know your career has been one that has been in politics, but there's, you're more

multifaceted than that. So walk us through the arc of your career and how you ended up where you are today.

Yeah, man, I mean it's a long story. We could talk about that the whole. and how you ended up where you are today.

Yeah, man, I mean, it's a long story.

We could talk about that the whole 20 minutes,

but I'll try to knock it out in like 45 seconds.

You know, look, I'm a white conservative Republican,

but, you know, I come from the other side of the tracks as they would say grew up in section 8 housing welfare kid and you know, the only white kid in my in my, you know, my apartment complex, but before that was, you know, white trailer trash, really, single wide trailer

with holes in the floor and that experience, you know, showed me that what the world was really like, kind of forced me to become a conservative.

I know a lot of times that would send people the other way, but I saw things a little different in the world and when I got to high school I met a state senator and just kind of fell in love with politics because I kind of wanted to change the world like all of us right? Like all this bad stuff, let's go out and change the world and a volunteer campaign in high school, went to college, became a political science major and worked at the State House, which went to the University of South Carolina, which, you know, for those who don't know, is pretty much on the state house and campus are pretty much connected.

I was able to walk up to the state house for work in between classes and met a bunch of political

consultants started working on every political campaign I could help Jim DeMint get elected in 2004 and went and ran someone's firm for about five years and then eventually social media started blowing up and I knew it would become a thing in politics like it was becoming a thing and marketing.

So I started one of the first Republican digital agencies that's now at about 60 people.

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