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This is the 10% happier podcast. I'm Dan Harris. Hey, hey everybody, how we doing? I have sometimes joked, and you may have heard me joke about this if you're a long time

listener, anyway I have sometimes joked about my unlikely conversion from

skeptical anti- sentimentalist to vocal proponent of a meditation practice known as loving kindness or meta

me T T T. A. But today you're going to hear from a guy who self-describes as aversive,

snippy, sarcastic, and scowling and who has become a

deep student practitioner and teacher of meta and related practices. In other

words this guy made an even more unlikely

transition than I did. Just to say if you're new to this practice, Meta, it

basically involves envisioning a series of beings, either people or animals,

and systematically sending them good vibes

via phrases such as, may you be happy, may you be safe,

etc, etc.

At first blush, for many of us,

it can seem a little cheesy,

but the science here is incredibly

compelling the research shows that this practice can have psychological

physiological and even behavioral benefits in an age of anxiety it's also worth noting that the practice was originally designed as you will hear my guest describe it as an antidote to fear and

Meta practice has certainly helped me in this regard as somebody who's been plagued by anxiety all of his life.

But anyway enough about me let me tell you about my guest his name is Devon Berry

He's been practicing meditation since 1999 and he has spent nearly five years of his life and silent

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