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Politics Unpacked

A beginner's guide to the House of Lords - Part Two

Politics Unpacked

Anna Covell

News & Politics, Politics, News

4.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 22 August 2019

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

Red Box reporter Esther Webber talks to Baroness Evans, Baroness Smith, Lord Fowler and others about the future of the strangest part of the British constitution.

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome back to a two-part redbox special podcast on the most exciting part of the British Constitution.

0:15.0

Yes, it's the whole thing works.

0:31.0

In the previous episode we heard about the different types of peers on what they do.

0:37.0

In this episode we're going to talk a bit more about how Brexit has turned fresh attention on the House of Lords and where

0:47.0

they go from here. Even though Brexit hasn't happened yet, Parliament has already passed some of the biggest pieces of legislation in preparation.

1:03.2

Most notably, the bill which enabled the government to trigger

1:07.6

R. School 50 and the EU withdrawal will, which transposed a lot of EU law into British law ahead of our departure.

1:18.0

Both of those bills were the subject of long intense debates in both houses and I should know because I sat through most of them.

1:30.0

And in the Lords they faced significant and repeated defeats.

1:36.0

It led to the Daini Mail publishing headlines, branding the Lords,

1:41.0

the unelected House of Wreckers and the Express dared

1:46.8

them to ignore the will of the people at your peril. It reopened the perennial debate about what the House of Lords is for and how it is made up.

2:00.0

The argument surfaced again that the entire institution is out of date, not fit for purpose,

2:08.2

and in need of a complete rethink.

2:12.0

So was this criticism of the Lords as unrepresentative or fundamentally opposed

2:18.8

to Brexit, actually justified? Here's Lord Tyler, a senior lived in Pere. Well I think in this sense

2:26.9

yes because I think early on after the referendum people of all parties,

2:34.0

people from government side,

2:36.0

as well as from the opposition side,

2:38.0

and the independent cross-benches,

2:40.0

not party people at all.

2:41.0

So, quite early on, that this was a great deal more complicated than anybody

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