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first our friends from Pearl Jam.

All right, Tiffin is a little before 9 o'clock on Tuesday. Lakers just won game four of the finals.

Really seemed like there was some hope there that this was going to turn into an awesome series.

LeBron, he hit the switch in the third quarter. He hit that long three right when it really

seemed like Miami was going to be just not going away. And you could see LeBron realize like,

okay, I got to step it up a little bit. He was terrific. But to me, the story of Rosillo

was the fringe guys. These were the guys that you point to and you go, this is why they can't

win the title. KCP, Rondo, who's been on six teams, Alex Caruso. But when you win a title,

those are the guys that then are coming through in an awesome game like that. I really enjoyed

that game, but those were the guys that stood out to me. Yeah, so if we stay with that,

I love that you brought up Rondo because I mean, it's really pretty remarkable that he can look

this good after looking this bad for so long. But the conversation around Rondo has always

frustrated me. It's a bit like the Aaron Rodgers thing that's happening right now. Aaron Rodgers

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