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. Hello and welcome to another episode of Politics Theory Other, a podcast from Tribune magazine.

My name is Alex Doherty and my guest today is Kate Soper.

We talked about her new book,

Post-growth Living, for an alternative hedonism. We chatted about why a transition to a sustainable post-growth economy need not mean privation and a reduction of pleasure, but instead an increase in

human flourishing. We also talked about why consumerism should be seen neither

as an expression of sovereign public choice or as mere surrender to the manipulations of the advertising

industry. And finally, we discussed Kate's concept of avant-garde nostalgia. Today's show is brought to you

by PTO supporters on Patreon and also by Verso Books, who have lots of titles

that may be of interest to PTO listeners. One that you might like to check out is climate crisis

and the global Green New Deal, the political economy of saving the planet. A new work from

Noam Chomsky and Robert Pollan, the book maps out the catastrophic consequences of unchecked

climate change and presents a realistic

blueprint for change, the Green New Deal. Humanity must stop burning fossil fuels within the next 30

years and do so in a way that improves living standards and opportunities for working people.

This is the goal of the Green New Deal and as the authors make clear, it is entirely feasible.

Climate change is an emergency that cannot be ignored. This book shows how it can be overcome,

both politically and economically. Climate change and the global Green New Deal is out now from

Verso Books and part of their September Book Club reading. You can buy it directly from their

website or get it as part of your Verso Book Club membership. And now to today's interview. Kate Soper teaches philosophy and cultural

theory at the University of North London. Her previous works include On Human Needs, What is Nature, Culture

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