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Modern Wisdom

#967 - Jeffrey Katzenberg & Hari Ravichandran - Hollywood Trouble, Big Tech & The Crisis With Kids

Modern Wisdom

Chris Williamson

Society & Culture, Health & Fitness

4.74.6K Ratings

🗓️ 14 July 2025

⏱️ 119 minutes

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Summary

Jeffrey Katzenberg is a media mogul, film producer, and co-founder of DreamWorks. Hari Ravichandran is a serial entrepreneur, founder, and CEO of Aura. From bringing joy to millions of childhoods through beloved Disney films to now addressing the digital challenges facing today’s youth, Jeffrey Katzenberg has partnered with Hari Ravichandran to lead a new revolution focused on safeguarding the mental health and online safety of the next generation. At the heart of it all is this vital question: how do we keep children safe online? Expect to learn what Jeffery Katzenberg is up to and the current state of modern media and film, how to reinvent yourself at pivotal moments, how to get better at dealing with change and disappointment, what the data says about kids, online safety & how parents can better protect their kids online, the big problems with mental health of the younger generation & how to best address their growing issues, and much more… Sponsors: See discounts for all the products I use and recommend: https://chriswillx.com/deals Get a Free Sample Pack of LMNT’s most popular Flavours with your first purchase at https://drinklmnt.com/modernwisdom Get 35% off your first subscription on the best supplements from Momentous at https://livemomentous.com/modernwisdom Get a 20% discount on Nomatic’s amazing luggage at https://nomatic.com/modernwisdom Get the best bloodwork analysis in America at https://functionhealth.com/modernwisdom Timestamps: (00:00) What Jeffrey Does & What Makes a Good Story? (10:51) What Drives Jeffrey & Hari? (16:40) What’s The State Of Modern Cinema? (23:04) Jeffrey & Hari on the Star Wars Universe, Gaming, & Dealing With Change (38:05) What Technology Is Doing To Younger Kids? (46:45) The Data Behind Keeping Kids Safe Online (1:00:01) Should We Ban Social Media For Anyone Under 16? (1:07:24) Why Parents Are the Key to Digital Safety (1:14:09) The Impact Of Wearable Devices & Celebrity Endorsements On Aura (1:23:24) How Early Screen Habits Affect Lifelong Patterns (1:32:51) The Hidden Costs Of Fame & How To Learn From Your Failures (1:41:32) The Trends Associated With Bullying & What Parents Can Do About It (1:51:38) Chris’ Thoughts On Adolescence (1:58:50) Learn More About Jeffrey, Hari, & Aura.com Extra Stuff: Get my free reading list of 100 books to read before you die: https://chriswillx.com/books Try my productivity energy drink Neutonic: https://neutonic.com/modernwisdom Episodes You Might Enjoy: #577 - David Goggins - This Is How To Master Your Life: https://tinyurl.com/43hv6y59 #712 - Dr Jordan Peterson - How To Destroy Your Negative Beliefs: https://tinyurl.com/2rtz7avf #700 - Dr Andrew Huberman - The Secret Tools To Hack Your Brain: https://tinyurl.com/3ccn5vkp - Get In Touch: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/modernwisdompodcast Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Jeff, what made you so good at what you did?

0:03.4

I don't actually understand what your skill set is.

0:06.0

It's obvious that you're talented, but I don't actually know.

0:09.7

You're not the first person to accuse me of.

0:11.0

I don't actually know what you're talented at.

0:12.6

I'm not sure I am either.

0:14.5

Let's see.

0:16.0

Certainly a good storyteller.

0:18.8

You know, I think, you know what? I'm a truffle hunter. I know how to find a good idea,

0:30.4

recognize a good person, a talented person. I think that's probably the most valuable skill set,

0:40.9

which is having an instinct for quality, for smarts,

0:46.7

for, you know, ambition, vision, dreams, you know,

0:53.4

you know, I've spent most of my career helping other people realize their dreams,

1:04.4

their stories, their ideas. And, you know, in order to, I think, recognize a dreamer, you need to be a bit of a dreamer yourself. You have to be an optimist. You have to believe in, you know, the unknown, the, you know, unimaginable. And you have to have a lot of enthusiasm. And I think those qualities are, I'm a happy person and an optimist, bottomless well of optimism.

1:33.8

I've heard you say that you're a good home run header, but you don't do singles and bunt.

1:38.3

Well, yeah, that's sort of a different, that's, you know, sort of in my ambition column, you know, sort of different lanes that, you know,

1:47.1

I like to take on things that are very, very, very challenging. And, you know, I like to say that,

1:54.2

you know, I'm, I like doing things that are, you know, improbable, if not impossible. That's kind of my home

2:02.8

address. And, you know, the outcome of that is, is that, you know, when you, one, you can't hit a

2:09.4

home run if you don't swing for the fence. And more time, at least many times, you will swing for

2:15.8

the fence and you won't get there, you know,

2:17.9

so you got to accept that, you know, with success comes failure.

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