#959 - Underoath - The Hidden Struggles Of Mental Health In Music

Modern Wisdom

Chris Williamson

Society & Culture, Health & Fitness

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🗓️ 26 June 2025

⏱️ 166 minutes

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Aaron Gillespie is the drummer, vocalist, and songwriter for Underoath. Tim McTague is the lead guitarist, backing vocalist, and songwriter for Underoath. Sex, drugs, and rock & roll, the dream every young man grows up hearing about. But is it all it’s made out to be? Aaron and Tim, from one of Metal’s most legendary bands, Underoath, have lived that life. The shows, the parties, the chaos, but also the sleepless nights, the fractured relationships, & the moments of wondering if it’s all worth it. Behind the noise & fame, what does the rockstar life actually cost? Expect to learn the origins of Underoath and what life is like on the road, how touring in a band affects your relationships with the ones you love and how it takes a toll on your mental health, what the rollercoaster of success is like and how the guys were able to deal with fame, the top 5 deathbed regrets of rockstars, what the songwriting scene is like In Nashville at the moment, how men can age peacefully & well, and much more... Sponsors: See discounts for all the products I use and recommend: https://chriswillx.com/deals Get a Free Sample Pack of LMNT’s most popular Flavours with your first purchase at https://drinklmnt.com/modernwisdom Get 35% off your first subscription on the best supplements from Momentous at https://livemomentous.com/modernwisdom Get the best bloodwork analysis in America at https://functionhealth.com/modernwisdom Get a 20% discount on Nomatic’s amazing luggage at https://nomatic.com/modernwisdom Extra Stuff: Get my free reading list of 100 books to read before you die: https://chriswillx.com/books Try my productivity energy drink Neutonic: https://neutonic.com/modernwisdom Episodes You Might Enjoy: #577 - David Goggins - This Is How To Master Your Life: https://tinyurl.com/43hv6y59 #712 - Dr Jordan Peterson - How To Destroy Your Negative Beliefs: https://tinyurl.com/2rtz7avf #700 - Dr Andrew Huberman - The Secret Tools To Hack Your Brain: https://tinyurl.com/3ccn5vkp - Get In Touch: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/modernwisdompodcast Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact - (00:00) Longevity Of The Band & Life On The Road (07:17) How Touring Affects Relationships (19:55) How Touring Affects Mental Health (29:55) How Touring Affects Your Loved Ones (36:49) The Emotional Rollercoaster of Success (50:57) The Reality Of Fame (1:14:23) The Price Of Precision In Any Art Form (1:39:58) How To Know Your Priorities Are Grounded (1:44:53 )The Top Five Deathbed Regrets Of Fallen Rockstars (1:55:35) The Current Songwriting Scene In Nashville (2:17:02) Manhood & Aging Well (2:28:12) The Dynamics Of Aaron & Tim’s Relationship Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Gentlemen, welcome the show.
0:01.5	Thanks for having it.
0:02.4	It's an honor, man.
0:03.2	How long have you guys been playing together as a band?
0:06.5	I've been in the band for 24 years.
0:09.7	And it was a local band two years before that, so 26 years.
0:13.4	Yeah.
0:13.9	We've been playing together for 24 years, though.
0:15.8	Yeah.
0:16.2	Have you got any idea how many shows you've done?
0:17.9	No.
0:18.7	I don't, do you?
0:24.0	2,500 maybe where did you get that number from 24 years 100 shows a year something like that there's been years where we've done 06 though I remember
0:29.3	probably more I got married the first time in 06 and we did that year we did over 300 shows
0:35.1	because I remember I got married in Salt Lake City and no honeymoon anything.
0:42.3	72 hours later, you know.
0:43.8	Back on the road.
0:44.4	Back on the road with Taking Back Sunday.
0:45.8	I remember that tour specifically.
0:47.6	So it was us taking back Sunday in a band called Armour for Sleep.
0:51.0	I remember.
0:51.5	They were the opener.
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