#957 - Anne-Laure Le Cunff - How To Live Freely In A Goal-Obsessed World

Modern Wisdom

Chris Williamson

Society & Culture, Health & Fitness

4.7 • 4.6K Ratings

🗓️ 21 June 2025

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Anne‑Laure Le Cunff is a neuroscientist, founder, and an author. We live by unconscious mental scripts. Most of the time, we don’t even realize it, until we wake up and see the life we’re living isn’t what we truly want. So how do we unlearn what no longer serves us and rewire our mind to align with who we really are? Expect to learn what the problem is when people obsess over finding their purpose, how to know if you’re following your own dreams or someone else’s, the tactics you can learn to begin unlearning cultural scripts, how to get more comfortable with uncertainty, how to deal with the shame of letting go of busyness and driving toward your purpose, why posture is so overlooked in mental health, how to improve a destructive mindset, and much more… Sponsors: See discounts for all the products I use and recommend: https://chriswillx.com/deals Get a 20% discount & free shipping on Manscaped’s shavers at https://manscaped.com/modernwisdom (use code MODERNWISDOM20) Get 10% discount on all Gymshark’s products at https://gym.sh/modernwisdom (use code MODERNWISDOM10) Get a 20% discount on Nomatic’s amazing luggage at https://nomatic.com/modernwisdom Extra Stuff: Get my free reading list of 100 books to read before you die: https://chriswillx.com/books Try my productivity energy drink Neutonic: https://neutonic.com/modernwisdom Episodes You Might Enjoy: #577 - David Goggins - This Is How To Master Your Life: https://tinyurl.com/43hv6y59 #712 - Dr Jordan Peterson - How To Destroy Your Negative Beliefs: https://tinyurl.com/2rtz7avf #700 - Dr Andrew Huberman - The Secret Tools To Hack Your Brain: https://tinyurl.com/3ccn5vkp - Get In Touch: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/modernwisdompodcast Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	What's the problem with people obsessing over finding their purpose, in your opinion?
0:05.0	It makes them miserable. When we try to find our purpose, we feel like if you haven't found it yet, something is wrong with our life.
0:14.0	Our life doesn't have meaning. We also spend a lot of time comparing our life to the life of others.
0:20.0	We wonder, why is it that this person
0:23.0	seems like she knows where she's going? Why is this person so excited about what they're doing?
0:30.1	Why do they have a passion? Why is it that I don't have my purpose? I don't have my passion.
0:35.5	And because of that, we become so obsessed with figuring out
0:38.5	what is my purpose that we end up not giving ourselves the time and the possibility to explore
0:46.1	and maybe figuring out in the end what that is. What is a better way to look at creating a direction
0:53.8	in life then? A better way to look at creating a direction in life then?
0:55.5	A better way to figuring out your purpose is just to experiment.
1:00.3	It's thinking like a scientist.
1:02.9	When a scientist wants to learn something new,
1:06.0	they don't start with a specific outcome in mind.
1:09.6	What they do is that they start with a research question,
1:12.6	a hypothesis. They wonder, hey, what might happen if I tried this? If you do that, if you keep on
1:19.3	asking questions, if you keep on trying new things, if you keep on making mistakes, learning from
1:24.8	them, and iterating, this is how you figure out your purpose.
1:30.6	How good do you think we are predicting what it is that we like? This seems sort of in the
1:37.4	discussion around having a purpose that there is a inherent sort of self-knowing.
1:47.2	I know what's best for me.
1:50.2	I am the master of this universe.
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