941: Madeleine and Jaime Soulé - Celebrating a Queer Marriage Pt. 2
Mormon Stories Podcast
Dr. John Dehlin
4.5 • 5.7K Ratings
🗓️ 8 June 2018
⏱️ 81 minutes
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Summary
Described as one of our most raw and moving interviews by our Facebook live audience, this special Pride edition of Mormon Stories is an interview with Jaime and Madeleine Soulé of Utah. Join us as we discuss:
- Their upbringing in the LDS Church
- Meeting and falling in love
- Their LDS mission woes
- Eventual marriage and parenthood
- Losing faith
- Jaime's transition as a trans woman and learning to manage their queer marriage
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| 0:59.1 | I tell that now. Yeah so I went to the MTC and like the same I was happy to go lucky. I was great. |
| 1:21.9 | Like I was ready to go on a mission and and I felt like I had a really close personal relationship |
| 1:27.7 | with God and I felt like I can make a lot of change. In fact the day I got there I was selected |
| 1:34.0 | to be district president or not district president, district leader for my group and yeah MTC district. |
| 1:42.0 | And language training is really really hard and and there's sort of an at and an immersive yeah |
| 1:51.4 | and there's sort of an atmosphere of this might this probably won't work out for you if you are not |
| 1:58.2 | solid, if you're not like totally clean you know and they really push it hard in the MTC. |
| 2:03.6 | I don't remember that too just like I felt like worth enough so I should say that's. |
| 2:08.7 | It felt kind of scary to me that MTC did and I felt really lonely when I was there because and I |
| 2:16.4 | wasn't there for very long but but so many of my peers around me just seem to to love their |
| 2:24.5 | experience and I just felt so isolated and lonely and and uncomfortable and awkward like I felt |
| 2:32.2 | like so many of our activities and you know the talks that were given to us were just |
| 2:39.0 | a lot more negative than I thought that MTC would be I thought the MTC would be like this little |
| 2:45.2 | missionary oasis where you just talk about Christ all the time but it felt so focused on |
| 2:54.0 | you know on guilt on trying to to make us question our worthiness and our |
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