94 — WPATH’s Bizarre 8th Standards of Care
Gender: A Wider Lens
Sasha Ayad and Stella O'Malley
4.6 • 961 Ratings
🗓️ 4 November 2022
⏱️ 67 minutes
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Summary
WPATH (World Professional Association for Transgender Health) has recently released its Standards of Care, Version 8 (SOC8) to a lot of criticism and controversy. Sasha and Stella provide a preliminary examination of WPATH and their SOC8, explaining why they believe glaring issues within these guidelines have discredited the organization.
Links:
- WPATH SOC8: https://www.wpath.org/soc8
- BMJ: https://www.bmj.com/content/378/bmj.o2303
- Wesley Yang: https://wesleyyang.substack.com/p/of-eunuchs-and-wannabes
- The Daily Wire: https://www.dailywire.com/news/wpath-explains-why-they-removed-minimum-age-guidelines-for-children-to-access-transgender-medical-treatments-so-doctors-wont-get-sued
- Genspect: https://genspect.org/wpath-explained/
- The Economist: https://www.economist.com/united-states/2022/09/22/new-standards-of-transgender-health-care-raise-eyebrows
Extended Notes
- WPATH is a fringe organization.
- Many doctors are influenced by WPATH without knowing it.
- The Standards of Care are misguided and fully represent the citations they are based on.
- Stella shares the history of WPATH and its documents.
- In 1979, Harry Benjamin released his first Standards of Care.
- In 2006, the Henry Benjamin Foundation changed its name to WPATH.
- In SOC 7, a chapter on ethics was removed from the document yet the chapter on eunuchs remained.
- SOC8 has the feel of a shopping list of surgical interventions.
- Almost all of the minimum age requirements were missing from SOC8.
- The language is “lawyer language” because it is vague enough for no one to be held responsible.
- The document is more about political will than clinical care.
- Sasha shares the nonsensical parts of SOC8, referencing the non-binary chapter.
- Many items are categorized under gender but are truly body modifications.
- Many website references cited in the document include unsavory information.
- Detransitioners are badly depicted in SOC8 and the definition of a detransitioner is abhorrent.
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to gender, a wider lens. |
| 0:04.0 | I'm Stella O'Malley, a psychotherapist in Ireland. |
| 0:06.5 | And I'm Sasha Ayad, an adolescent therapist in the United States. |
| 0:10.6 | Since 2016, my practice has been exclusively dedicated to gender questioning teens |
| 0:16.1 | and families impacted by gender dysphoria. |
| 0:19.0 | I also work with gender questioning teenagers and I facilitated support meetings for families and |
| 0:24.2 | individuals who have been impacted by gender issues. We're curious about the |
| 0:28.0 | concept of gender and how it's unfolding in the wider culture. Join us as we look at gender through a wider lens. |
| 0:35.0 | Well, hello there, Sasha. |
| 0:39.0 | Hello there, Stella. |
| 0:41.0 | Today is going to be a very interesting episode. We are trying to cover the recent updates from the W path Standards of Care 8, which was recently published. We're recording this at the beginning of October |
| 0:54.5 | 2022. And I wanted to start out by just kind of giving the listener an idea of where we're |
| 1:01.0 | going today, because this is a humongous document of really significant importance |
| 1:06.5 | with serious flaws and we do not expect that this episode is going to be a kind of end all and be all analysis but there are certain |
| 1:14.6 | things we want to touch on so we want to talk about how W path standards of |
| 1:19.7 | care are kind of used in the clinic clinical population why it's important. |
| 1:24.9 | We're going to go over the history of the organization, who they are, where they came from, |
| 1:30.9 | and how they've kind of appointed themselves as this authority on something really, really important. |
| 1:37.0 | We're going to talk about just what the tone of the document is like, what it's like to read it it definitely has a glossy impressive |
| 1:44.5 | feeling to it but then we're going to dig into some of the specific things |
| 1:48.1 | we've noticed and that lots of people are, which are frankly shocking and kind of position W path is kind of a fringe organization when you discover some of the ways they are talking about these really serious identity issues, body modifications, etc. |
| 2:09.4 | So this again, we can't cover everything. |
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