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Mr Obnoxious

#94 - Max Winga - The 5-Year Countdown to AI Extinction

Mr Obnoxious

Peter McCormack

Technology, News, Politics, Money, Investing, Finance, Bitcoin

4.82.7K Ratings

🗓️ 14 July 2025

⏱️ 106 minutes

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Summary

Max Winga, an AI safety advocate from Control AI, joins The Peter McCormack Show for a sobering look at the existential risk posed by artificial intelligence.

In this episode, Max reveals how the reckless race for superintelligence, a profound lack of enforceable safety measures, and the apathy of global governance are putting humanity on a potential path to extinction. We explore the chilling capabilities of emerging AI, the concept of a runaway "intelligence explosion," why top AI researchers are sounding the alarm, and what happens when we can no longer control our own creations.

Transcript

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0:00.0

AI is everywhere these days, you're seeing it all over the news, and you hear a lot of talk about it.

0:06.0

You hear a lot of hype, you hear a lot of concerning things come out.

0:09.0

The current state of affairs right now is that these AI companies are rushing to do it as fast as they possibly can.

0:15.0

I believe even the US government would probably be thinking, well, if China's building one, we need to build one so we know

0:21.6

what's being built, so we can understand it more, maybe we need it as defensive. So I feel like

0:27.3

there's almost an inevitability to it. It's not that hard of a concept to understand that

0:32.4

building something that is far smarter than you, far more capable than you, is dangerous if you

0:37.0

can't control it and you can't

0:38.1

make sure it cares about your interests. I personally think that things are going quite poorly. I

0:42.2

don't think that we are on track to address these problems right now at the rate that we're going.

0:47.1

At the current pace, without the right safety protocols in place, you think it will lead to an

0:53.4

extinction event.

1:01.1

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