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94 - LIVE Questions - Hell, Water To Wine, What Is Faith?

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Religion & Spirituality, Philosophy, Society & Culture

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🗓️ 16 June 2017

⏱️ 20 minutes

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VOX LIVE Questions - Hell, Water to Wine, What is faith? - June 15th, 2017 1. So often I have found church after church and pastor after pastor who teach and claim their own anxiety based insecurities. I understand that the Church is an imperfect system run by imperfect people to serve a perfect God and will never be complete until the second coming. However, I do not understand why there is rampant denying of the core message of Jesus; hope, love, and grace offered to all. I struggle with trusting pastors and churches because of this. How can such love be offered yet continuously erroneously conditional? How can a pastor/church claim such power in Jesus yet directly go against said power? Sorry for the rambling. 2. What are your feelings on hell? Some believe it's a place of eternal torment, but others believe it's a place of annihilation where evil ceases to exist. Some also believe it's a state of purgatory, and eventually everyone becomes reconciled with God. Do you believe in the possibility of universal reconciliation? 3. Why was the first miracle water being turned into wine when people were probably already pretty drunk? 4. I know we idealize many OT prophets' faith in God, but I hardly think stories like Abraham show any extraordinary faith. An honest critique is he jacked it all up trying to figure out and do for God what God said He was going to do for him. I mean the collateral damage from Abraham sleeping with Hagar is disgusting, yet the Bible says he has great faith. If anything I think this story shows us the reality of God doing for us what we can't fathom or begin to do for ourselves. So what is belief/faith then? Can God take the disjointed, obscured and jacked up faiths of those who have some idea of a God and what He's like, yet don't get it all quite right including how they practice or even knowing about Jesus? Can He take our pathetic efforts and also count us as righteous because of Christ doing for us what we can't do for ourselves? - Mike Erre Learn more about the VOX Podcast: www.voxpodcast.com Subscribe on iTunes - http://apple.co/1Lla1Nj Music provided by Izzi Ray - http://www.soundcloud.com/izziray Music available on iTunes - https://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/izzi-ray/id386256769 Support the VOX Podcast on Patreon: www.patreon.com/voxpodcast Follow us on Twitter www.twitter.com/thevoxpodcast Like us on Facebook www.facebook.com/voxpodcast Follow Mike on Twitter www.twitter.com/mikeerre Follow Andy on Twitter www.twitter.com/Andy_lara Mike Erre participates as VOX Team Leader at VOX Community, a church expression of the VOX Podcast. Learn more about VOX Community at www.voxoc.com. Listen to our Sunday teaching from VOX Community: www.soundcloud.com/voxcommunity

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Well if it's Thursday it's Thursday it's Vox Podcasts, last day of school.

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Well if it's Thursday, it's Vox Podcast Day.

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Happy Thursday today in the Erie home, last day of school.

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So there have been a multitude of assemblies,

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award ceremonies, graduation dictates that have been sat through, some joyfully, some non-joyfully.

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What, you don't enjoy sitting and watching other kids be acknowledged for how great they are?

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No, I love that. You could just do it a lot faster.

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Like so, so Hannah had an assembly today and there was like every single class read a verse, sang a song, got affirmed, had a blessing,

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prayed over them, you know, their teacher spoke, I mean it was like, you know know we could have done this a little quicker

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Really what do you what are you doing right now are we on? Are we going? Okay, you scare me when you when you switch out headphones like that

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All right ladies a gentlemen, it is Facebook live and usually that means the five or six of you that are actually live, we're very excited about.

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And then the the the 1200 of you that watch later so it's always weird knowing that that this will be this will stick around for a little bit so So anyway, hello, we're glad you're here. It is 2.19 on Thursday afternoon and

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Seth Erie's bus arrives at 224, which means, sometimes, sometimes a little later than that,

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which means there could be a very delightful interruption right in the middle of Facebook Live.

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All right.

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Where Seth will, he'll give some answers to some big question.

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So anyway, Andy, we've got some questions.

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We've got some Q's and maybe we'll have some a's we don't know yep that's right

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Okay, laid on us late on us first one okay so often I have found church after church and pastor after pastor who teach and claim their own anxiety-based

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insecurities. Who teach and and claim their own anxiety and

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securities. All right. All right. Or claim to have.

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I don't know.

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