This is Jonathan Peugeot. Welcome to the symbolic world. I want to thank you, Kelly, thank you for inviting me on the Boston fellows as well.

And thank you, Father, for having us here.

It's really wonderful to be in Boston and to see a lot of people. And it's kind of this, the crowd is what I was expecting, you know, kind of 20s, early 30s.

That's my image of Boston, I guess.

And yesterday I was walking around Boston and I was pretty confirmed in my image.

Just all these young people walking around.

And so what I want to talk to you about today is I want to give you a story of art.

But it's going to be a story of art that's going to be maybe a little different from the one

you're used to hearing.

I want to try to trace the story of art in Scripture and how it relates to our life today,

or what it means for us today.

And when I'm going to talk about the story of art, it's actually going to end up being more than just art in the very narrow way that we understand art today.

It's going to end up being the story of art as the entirety of human making, the entirety of human activity. How can we trace this line

in scripture and how does it relate to us today in the church? And also as we see Christianity

erode in our culture, what does that also mean for human making? What does that look like

in terms of human making?

In the Orthodox tradition, for those of you are orthodox, there's an interesting little

issue.

There is a kind of duality in terms of human making or in terms of, let's say, liturgical art or beautiful things, beautiful

architecture, is that on the one hand we have an ascetic tradition.

And in this aesthetic tradition, here we have an image of St. Simeon the Stylite who stood

on a pillar for most of his life and just stood there for day and night, you know,

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